Comment #1Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 7Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 207.1.2Comment Intent: ObjectionComment Type: TechnicalComment: Some Raters dont have the means to travel to or attend a RESNET conference and RESNET approved PD training opportunities are sometimes limited. The graded field evaluations are a great tool to gauge practical knowledge and train to the gaps. In many ways the on the job training that the graded field evauaion offers can be more valuable than webinar based learning opportunities. The graded field evaluation should be recognized as a valuble and effective way for Raters ro renew. There doesnt appear to be a clear and complelling reason why this pathway would not be allowed as an alternative as is has been in the past. Proposed Change: 207.1.2.1 Complete 18 hours of RESNET approved professional development from a RESNET Accredited Training Provider every three years, OR , OR 207.1.2.2 Successfully complete one RESNET graded-field evaluation overseen by a RESNET certified Candidate Field Assessor or Quality Assurance Designee, 207.1.2.3 207.1.2.2 Certified Home Energy Raters who have not completed any Confirmed, Sampled, or Threshold ratings within the three-year certification period shall successfully complete one RESNET graded-field evaluation overseen by a RESNET certified Candidate Field Assessor or Quality Assurance Designee, in addition to satisfying either 207.1.2.1 or 207.1.2.2.
Some Raters dont have the means to travel to or attend a RESNET conference and RESNET approved PD training opportunities are sometimes limited. The graded field evaluations are a great tool to gauge practical knowledge and train to the gaps. In many ways the on the job training that the graded field evauaion offers can be more valuable than webinar based learning opportunities. The graded field evaluation should be recognized as a valuble and effective way for Raters ro renew. There doesnt appear to be a clear and complelling reason why this pathway would not be allowed as an alternative as is has been in the past.
207.1.2.1 Complete 18 hours of RESNET approved professional development from a RESNET Accredited Training Provider every three years, OR , OR
207.1.2.2 Successfully complete one RESNET graded-field evaluation overseen by a RESNET certified Candidate Field Assessor or Quality Assurance Designee,
207.1.2.3 207.1.2.2 Certified Home Energy Raters who have not completed any Confirmed, Sampled, or Threshold ratings within the three-year certification period shall successfully complete one RESNET graded-field evaluation overseen by a RESNET certified Candidate Field Assessor or Quality Assurance Designee, in addition to satisfying either 207.1.2.1 or 207.1.2.2.
Comment #2Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 3.4.5Comment Intent: ObjectionComment Type: TechnicalComment: Changing the name from "HERS Rater" to "Certified Rater" is disingenuous. It makes it appear as a certification that is a) all knowing and b) non-specific. We are trained to operate within RESNET's Home Energy Rating System (HERS) - we are not trained to operate under NGBS, LEED, PHIUS, etc. Making the certification name generic is a blatant attempt to make a HERS Rater appear to have the ability to do more than we actually can. Proposed Change: 3.4.5 Home Energy Ratering System Rater (HERS Rater) Certified Rater
Changing the name from "HERS Rater" to "Certified Rater" is disingenuous. It makes it appear as a certification that is a) all knowing and b) non-specific.
We are trained to operate within RESNET's Home Energy Rating System (HERS) - we are not trained to operate under NGBS, LEED, PHIUS, etc. Making the certification name generic is a blatant attempt to make a HERS Rater appear to have the ability to do more than we actually can.
3.4.5 Home Energy Ratering System Rater (HERS Rater) Certified Rater
Comment #3Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 3.4Comment Intent: ObjectionComment Type: EditorialComment: If you review everything under the 3.4 heading, specifically "3.4.4.1.2" - all the numbers are out of sorts. It changes from 3.4.4.1.2 to 206.2.1.1.2.1 The entire numbering of this section (and any other section within this proposed amendment) needs to be fixed in order to be accurate. Right now it looks like a lot of unorganized text. Proposed Change: Fix the numbering on everything to make the Chapter Amendment actually legible.
If you review everything under the 3.4 heading, specifically "3.4.4.1.2" - all the numbers are out of sorts. It changes from 3.4.4.1.2 to 206.2.1.1.2.1
The entire numbering of this section (and any other section within this proposed amendment) needs to be fixed in order to be accurate. Right now it looks like a lot of unorganized text.
Fix the numbering on everything to make the Chapter Amendment actually legible.
Comment #4Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 3.4Comment Intent: ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: The standard amendment has strictly written out the specific years of the publication dates for ANSI 380 and ANSI 301, instead leaving them in the normative reference area. That's fine - except for the fact that the RESNET Standard Exam does not actually reference the 2019 editions of these standards (this was confirmed at the RESNET 2020 Conference in Scottsdale during the Instructor Roundtable). So you want us to train HERS Raters and RFIs on a version of the standard that they aren't actually being tested on - which means we have to train and teach them on both - doubling workload on good instructors. Proposed Change: Reference the standards that are used in the Rater Standard Exam.
The standard amendment has strictly written out the specific years of the publication dates for ANSI 380 and ANSI 301, instead leaving them in the normative reference area. That's fine - except for the fact that the RESNET Standard Exam does not actually reference the 2019 editions of these standards (this was confirmed at the RESNET 2020 Conference in Scottsdale during the Instructor Roundtable).
So you want us to train HERS Raters and RFIs on a version of the standard that they aren't actually being tested on - which means we have to train and teach them on both - doubling workload on good instructors.
Reference the standards that are used in the Rater Standard Exam.
Comment #5Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 2Comment Intent: ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: Chapter 8 references (via a hyperlink) ANSI/ACCA Standard 12-2014. There has been a newer publication of this (2016, if I remember correctly). The sections in the certification of candidates should specifically referecne ANSI/ACCA Standard 12, and put a normative reference to the correct publication date. That way people actually know what standard they should be held to. Proposed Change: Instead of referencing "Chapter 8" nebulously, specifically call out ACCA Standard 12 and put the normative reference into the correct publication year (2014 or 2016).
Chapter 8 references (via a hyperlink) ANSI/ACCA Standard 12-2014.
There has been a newer publication of this (2016, if I remember correctly). The sections in the certification of candidates should specifically referecne ANSI/ACCA Standard 12, and put a normative reference to the correct publication date. That way people actually know what standard they should be held to.
Instead of referencing "Chapter 8" nebulously, specifically call out ACCA Standard 12 and put the normative reference into the correct publication year (2014 or 2016).
Comment #6Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 2Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 203.2.4Comment Intent: Not an ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: “Maintain records for three years of all training materials and trainee data, training schedules, curricula…” For clarity, specify the method of record maintenance desired. For instance, does the Accredited Training Provider need to maintain training materials and trainee data electronically, as hard copies, or both?
“Maintain records for three years of all training materials and trainee data, training schedules, curricula…”
For clarity, specify the method of record maintenance desired. For instance, does the Accredited Training Provider need to maintain training materials and trainee data electronically, as hard copies, or both?
Comment #7Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 3Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 204.1.2Comment Intent: Not an ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: In reference to the below statement, please see our suggestion for clarification. “Demonstrate mastery of the Home Energy Rating System knowledge and ability sets provided in Section 208 - Capabilities. Mastery is demonstrated by completing the following RESNET tests with a minimum (passing) score to be determined by RESNET.” Define what the minimum passing score is for each test (204.1.2.1 National Rater Instructor Competency Test; 204.1.2.2 RESNET Combustion Appliance Simulation Test; and 204.1.2.3 Rater Simulation Practical Test) so that expectations to become a Certified Rater Instructor are clear.
In reference to the below statement, please see our suggestion for clarification.
“Demonstrate mastery of the Home Energy Rating System knowledge and ability sets provided in Section 208 - Capabilities. Mastery is demonstrated by completing the following RESNET tests with a minimum (passing) score to be determined by RESNET.”
Define what the minimum passing score is for each test (204.1.2.1 National Rater Instructor Competency Test; 204.1.2.2 RESNET Combustion Appliance Simulation Test; and 204.1.2.3 Rater Simulation Practical Test) so that expectations to become a Certified Rater Instructor are clear.
Comment #8Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 4Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 205.3.4Comment Intent: Not an ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: It is unclear the intent behind the terminology change to Certified Rater. Is RESNET changing the term HERS Rater to Certified Rater? Does a Certified Rater include both HERS raters and HERS Modelers as proposed in MINHERS Addendum 50? This terminology change would be a major shift for the industry. Certified Rater seems too general and could be confusing for consumers, especially with the recent campaign to educate consumers on HERS scores. Instead of introducing confusion to the market, RESNET can work on more precisely defining the roles and responsibilities of HERS Raters. The industry and the public might be better able to understand HERS Raters’ roles and importance by setting expectations with clearly defined duties and tasks throughout MINHERS Chapter 2. If RESNET does end up updating the term, there needs to be a clear delineation of the Certified Rater’s role, and all references of the old terminology would need to be updated on the RESNET website, marketing materials, other MINHERS chapters, etc.
It is unclear the intent behind the terminology change to Certified Rater. Is RESNET changing the term HERS Rater to Certified Rater? Does a Certified Rater include both HERS raters and HERS Modelers as proposed in MINHERS Addendum 50?
This terminology change would be a major shift for the industry. Certified Rater seems too general and could be confusing for consumers, especially with the recent campaign to educate consumers on HERS scores. Instead of introducing confusion to the market, RESNET can work on more precisely defining the roles and responsibilities of HERS Raters. The industry and the public might be better able to understand HERS Raters’ roles and importance by setting expectations with clearly defined duties and tasks throughout MINHERS Chapter 2.
If RESNET does end up updating the term, there needs to be a clear delineation of the Certified Rater’s role, and all references of the old terminology would need to be updated on the RESNET website, marketing materials, other MINHERS chapters, etc.
Comment #9Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 4Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 206 Certification CandidatesComment Intent: Not an ObjectionComment Type: EditorialComment: Section 206 starts with 206.3 General Provisions, skipping sections 206.1 and 206.2. As such, the numberings within Sec. 206 appear to be incorrect and the section does not always go in chronological order. Ensure accurate numbering throughout.
Section 206 starts with 206.3 General Provisions, skipping sections 206.1 and 206.2. As such, the numberings within Sec. 206 appear to be incorrect and the section does not always go in chronological order. Ensure accurate numbering throughout.
Comment #10Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 6Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 206.2.2Comment Intent: Not an ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: Section 206.2.2 was previously revised in proposed Addendum 50 to be for HERS Modelers. Suggestion to confirm version sections and edits within Addendums so that they do not conflict with each other. This is also the case for Sec. 207.1.2 on page 7.
Section 206.2.2 was previously revised in proposed Addendum 50 to be for HERS Modelers. Suggestion to confirm version sections and edits within Addendums so that they do not conflict with each other. This is also the case for Sec. 207.1.2 on page 7.
Comment #11Amendment: Proposed MINHERS Addendum 45, Chapter 2 Updates, Draft PDS-01Page Number: 7Paragraph / Figure / Table / Note: 207.1.1.2Comment Intent: Not an ObjectionComment Type: GeneralComment: Suggestion to list criteria for how a conference becomes approved by RESNET. This will set expectations for recertification requirements, improve transparency, and give flexibility for maintaining the certification.
Suggestion to list criteria for how a conference becomes approved by RESNET. This will set expectations for recertification requirements, improve transparency, and give flexibility for maintaining the certification.
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